Picking the RIGHT Externship
Spend some time thinking about what you want to learn and do on your externship.
Be aware there are many different approaches to veterinary medicine; go to www.ruralvets.org , click on “Find a Mentor” read about the many different opportunities nation-wide. You may ask any non-ARV veterinary clinic to sponsor you, as long as they join ARV before we award externships next April.
Phone call the clinics on your short list, personal interaction is the best.
Try, if possible, to visit prospective practice hosts before committing to an externship. Notice the “intangibles” such as how the staff relates to each other, the attitude the clients have, generally note how organized the place is. . If you feel you must have all the technology available, be sure to notice or find out what equipment the practice utilizes. In some states as well as some practices, underclassmen are not allowed to do very much, which can be disappointing.
Be up front and tell them what you are interested in doing and ask them how much you will be allowed to do and how closely you will be supervised.
Also ask what they are busy with at your time of year to visit them. Some of this work is very seasonal, but it varies with geographical region. Caseloads can be unpredictable any where
Wait for them to bring up wages (If any), accommodations, and hours. If you are going where they do their own after-hours (emergencies), expect to be called. If they don't bring up wages, lodging, etc, it's OK to bring it up later, just remember that if you bring up that stuff early in the conversation, you appear to be more concerned with money and leisure than you are with learning
Ask if they have had externs before and from what school. You might go to the ARV student list an ask students from that school if they know anything about the practice in question.. ARV has students critique each ARV externship, and we now have a little over 30 hosts in our database. You can ask us at firstname.lastname@example.org and we will furnish you a limited look at veterinary practice evaluations. Please note we have about 130 mentors on our list, and so we have no evaluation data on many of them.
Lots of externs means they at least know how to deal w/students, but anybody who impresses you with their interest and enthusiasm may be a good bet.
Be advised of these risks:
Many upscale practices won't let you do very much for liability reasons though you do get to see a lot.
Potential personality and practice philosophy conflicts can occur, but you can avoid many by doing your homework and taking the time to prepare for your externship beforehand.
You will learn a lot in any practice situation that you won’t pick up anywhere else.
If, in spite of your best efforts, you find yourself in an unfortunate situation, grit your teeth and tough it out, you can learn in these predicaments as well; even if what you learn is how NOT to practice.
Always remember, this job is supposed to be fun!
ARV Faculty Liaison (None named for ORE, PENN, West.U@Pomona) alphabetical by Dr name; some schools > 1 faculty rep.
Ask these teachers at your respective schools to write yor faculty letters of reccomendation when applying for the ARV grant, but we will accept letters from any faculty member if you don’t yet know these guys.
Christianson, Dr David Mississippi Liaison
Clark, Dr. Sherrie Illinois Liaison
Clarke, Dr. Cyril Oklahoma Liaison
Ensley, Dr. Doug Georgia Liaison
Floyd, Dr. James North Carolina Liaison
Gard, Dr. Julie Alabama Liaison
Garry, Dr. Frank CSU Liaison
Gay, Dr. John Washington State Liaison
George, Dr. Lisle UC Davis Liaison
Hilton, Dr. Mark Purdue Liaison
Holt, Dr. Tim CSU Liaison
Levine, Dr. Howard Tufts Liaison
McClanahan, Dr. Susan Minnesota Liaison
Meiring, Dr. Rich Ohio State Liaison
Navarre, Dr. Christine B. LSU Liaison
Newkirk, Dr Kenneth Tuskegee Liaison
Nordlund, Dr Ken Wisconsin Liasion
Nydam, Dr. Daryl New York (Cornell) Liaison
Osterstock, Dr. Jason Texas A&M Liaison
Rae, Dr. Owen Florida Liaison
Ramirez, Dr. Alex Iowa State Liaison
Raphael, Dr. Will Michigan Liaison
Roberson, Dr. Jerry Tennessee Liaison
Rousell, Dr. Allen Texas A&M Liaison
Schneider, Dr. Chris Washington State Liaison
Schultz, Dr. Lauren Missouri Liaison
Swecker, Dr. Terry Virginia-Maryland Liaison
Thompson, Dr. Dan Kansas Liaison
West, Dr. Jim Iowa State Liaison
White, Dr. Brad Kansas Liaison
EXTERNSHIP AND SUMMER JOB INSURANCE ISSUES
Those of you that win ARV Externship grants are strongly encouraged to have both health and accident coverage and Professional liability coverage as well. Read this letter carefully and you will find some necessary answers. In some states you may be covered by Workmen's Compensation, but this varies from state to state. Please direct questions to the AVMA# or web site provided, or ask your host veterinarian,
AVMA GHLIT Student Medical PPO Program
The AVMA Group Health and Life Insurance Trust (GHLIT) makes available a student medical
PPO program for SAVMA members at most schools. The plan features a $250 in-network
deductible and co-pays for in-network doctor office visits and prescription drugs. The
Career-Start Program can provide you with $100,000 of life insurance and $500 of disability
coverage per month even if you are not employed.
At graduation, you are eligible for guaranteed amounts of Disability, Medical, and Life
insurance regardless of medical history, and may finance the initial premium with a
promissory note issued at four percent interest, with a no interest grace period. Contact
AVMA GHLIT at 800.621.6360 for the name of the specially trained agent at your school
who can provide plan details and prices. The program is underwritten by New York Life.
AVMA PLIT Coverage for $10
The AVMA Professional Liability Insurance Trust (PLIT) offers veterinary professional
liability and personal insurance coverage to SAVMA students. For only $10, students
receive the same amount of professional liability coverage purchased by their sponsoring
veterinarian*. And, once the $10 fee has been paid each calendar year, the AVMA PLIT will
cover subsequent student applications during the same calendar year.
A student professional liability application needs to be completed and eligibility requirements
met prior to each clinical experience. Student professional liability is not just for externships
and preceptorships-secure coverage for part-time and volunteer work as well. Personal
insurance is also available for homeowners, personal auto, and renters' coverage. Contact
AVMA Plit at 800.228.PLIT(7548) or go to www.avmaplit.com for an application.
*Sponsoring veterinarian must have professional liability coverage through the AVMA PLIT.